[/QUOTE]the 2 pilot groups dont have to unify to avoid a whippin. they can have 2 seperate contracts that lay shizzle out specifically that protects each of them equally. Pcl pilots have had the opportunity to look out for themselves. It failed, and moreso, alpa failed them. ALPA has not helped them secure a new contract one bit. Period. Grievance, lawsuit, whatever you want to call it. ALPA has so far lost to PCL MGMT. WHich SUCKS. COLGAN pilots are not out to screw them one bit. Most of us would walk before that happened. I want them to get what they deserve before I ever see a new a/c type on colgan property. I'll fly the damn wings off of an old 340 if it means that we did the right thing by the pcl pilot group. WE all would. But understand one thing. PCL pilots, especially the senoir ones, were given the chance in the past to make the scope and definition of their exsistining contract. Colgan pilots have never had that opportunity. We will protect our new found brothers as best we can. This buyout is less that 3 weeks old and we are already organizing. We are open, and we are in talks with your MEC.

You want to win the Colgan pilots to your side? Dont' treat us like f-ing stepbrothers, worried about your f-ing interests and your f-ed up contract above our equity that we are bringing to you. We are 350 deep. We live together in the same outstations, drink together, hang out together, and get shat on together. It's like a small school. WE are tight here. WE want to help, and not contribute to the whipsaw, and we are actively pursuing talks with alpa and pcl mec on OUR own behalf. Your pilots are not winning your battle. I've been called a scab by 3 f-ing pcl pilots from pcl in 3 different airports in the last 2 weeks. YOu aren't winning **** with us. Get your own house in order before you tell me how to manage mine. We are trying to get it in order, but every dickbreath pcl pilot that makes some f-ed up comment is losing YOUR war. They are turning away a VERY,VERY tight group of pilots that are willing to join your ranks. I'm not anti union, anti pcl, and Id like to see us all unite and whoop some ass. Like Prater says, "it's time to take it back."[/QUOTE]

Ok first thing... RELAX!

I think you misunderstand me Mr. Dingo, as I'm not saying that Colgan is going to do anything bad to PNCL pilots. I am NOT calling ANYONE a scab in this situation, and I think it important to let you know that I don't work at PNCL so you can stop lecturing me about my f-up contract, and company organization etc.

My only point is that "IF" there was going to be trouble, it would be a division of pilot groups! That's it! Actually, I didn't even say it, I just quoted it as pointed out by you... Unity is strength! As an industry, we're all in this together, and I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone! I'm sure you'd have more support for your point of view if you didn't attack other people's... Either way, good luck to you and all involved...