Originally Posted by
buzzpat
I don't think you guys are interpreting it correctly...at least the way it seems to be working in LA. The buckets only come into play when the seniority system has been run based on days available. If a senior guy (me) has three days available and there's a three day trip, guess who gets it? Me. If a junior guy flies trip, incurs some raw, but has less days available or its not a match for the days required, he doesn't get it. The senior guy does and then the seniority system comes into play again with the next bucket.
You got this all wrong. As you noted, LAX works different. When a 3-day pops up, the senior guy does not get it.
Neither does the junior guy..
Alaska gets it.
For the rest of us, in all seriousness, it works just as you said but I believe you end up with the same result as Jesse was talking about
: Days of availability > bucket > seniority.
Originally Posted by
buzzpat
And, as discussed before, the buckets will be adjusted by category. It is too early from my viewpoint to color an entire process based on what is now the second month of a new initiative.
Also, as a very junior line holder (occasionally) in LA, I can assure you that there is a significant difference between junior and senior QOLs. It seems commensurate with the difference between senior and junior on reserve.
I know the buckets will be adjusted by category but it might not. Hence, the push back. From my interactions nobody has told me that we'll adjust it different than it is now. Not even a "in March we'll evaluate and redo it per category based on the results of February and adjusted for block hour changes." From the emails I'm getting their is no intention to change it.
I guess it boils down to two questions:
1. How is it fair that there is not a system that gives top X% of regular pilots an SIL worth ALV but yet there is one for reserve?
2. The pay tables have incremental increases from years 1 through 12, but why not just have a flat pay rate from year 1 to 11 and then spike it at 12? There's a reason obviously, so why have a system that says if pilots schedules are identical then it's okay to have one pilot fly 0 and the pilot one number junior fly 50-60 hours?
That's my beef on the construction of the bucket systems if RAW sizes are not adjusted to a rational number per category going forward.