First of all, I wasn't attacking anyone, unlike you. I am not hiding behind a forum, if you would prefer you can tell me who you are and I would be glad to say the same thing in person. I am merely stating that there are a lot of guys who have already voted no because of the pay issue. Caribbean based pilots just won't vote yes to a significant pay cut. If you dont think that is reason enough for them to vote no, maybe you should try a $3/hr pay cut. Next winter there will be the issue of forcing junior pilots to the Caribbean because no one will be able to afford to live there seasonally.

Yes I agree some of the work rules have been improved, but that doesnt change the fact of no pay change for 50+% of the pilots and a cut of pay for Carib pilots, and that is a huge deciding factor.

Btw the .25% 401 match is laughable at best. I'm not sure if you have ever worked anywhere else, but that is well below par.