Do you understand that the logic of the system works in seniority order? So you said junior guy's are getting a line with vacation or training at the expense of senior guy's? Guess what, that "senior guy's" line was awarded before it even looked at the pilots junior to that person... When the system is working a senior guy's schedule it doesn't give a damn who has vacation below him. That vacation pilot is just possibly getting some pairings that would otherwise go into open time. And you do understand that one of the reason's to have PBS is to finish up with little to no open time so that (ideally) the system can operate with less reserves. That part still needs work. The vacation and training thing is an issue to be worked out. Training actually typically put's a bubble line holder on reserve because it waste's 4 day's for only 16 hrs of credit. Maybe there should be a virtual credit put on training day's just for bidding purposes to keep that from happening. The vacation thing ****es a lot of junior line holders off until they get put on reserve and have a vacation month come up, then they love it. I wouldn't mind if there was something put into the contract that if you wanted to do a 65 hour month then you will just get paid 65 hours of credit rather than guarantee. Management is so upset with 65 hr vacation months getting guarantee pay and they claim it requires them to staff much higher to cover what is left behind from the senior guy's with up to 8 possible 65 hour months. If someone want's to take a break with a 65 hour month then they would have to weigh the smaller than guarantee paycheck that month in exchange for all that time off. I find it good enough to get 4 hrs of pay while I'm sitting possibly on an island or something somewhere. I'm sure the next couple of replies will be from those who swear the most possible soft credit at the highest hourly rate is the only thing exceptable, but that's not how you run a profitable business...