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Old 02-12-2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Can you show me a non-union form of governance that works effectively using your plan? Anything in big business where the BOD elects middle management? How about big government, where Congress elects civil service? Any example of where what you desire has been highly effective?
Another example of you using a false premise to somehow "prove" your false assertion. We're not talking about the BOD of a corporation electing middle management, because the MEC's committees are NOT middle management. They run the union because they are the real power structure. MEC committees are equivalent to senior level management of a corporation, and none of those positions get filled without Board approval.

You obviously don't like the fact that NuGuy nailed it with his post here:

Originally Posted by NuGuy
The last thing we need is more committees, and you will NEVER see a straight to membership communication as long as the current MEC structure is in place.

We need to wrest the committee structure back from the MEC Chair, and put it back where it belongs, with the MEC at large.
He is exactlly correct. Every committee person needs to be approved by our elected representatives. Every one. It is how corporations operate, and it is done this way for a reason.

Originally Posted by slowplay
Oh, the mec has control of the committee structure. They elect the Chairman and Officers, plus confirm committee chairs.
What good does control of a committee "structure" do if you don't control the committee? It's all but meaningless. You must control the appointment of every single member to the committe, or you don't control it. I know you know this and were just trying to defend the indefensible, but I'm not the only one who notices when you do this.

Carl