Originally Posted by
goaround2000
See we don't deal with any of this bull**** with line bidding, and more importantly our contract language is very specific about it.
I can only assume that the misunderstanding is intentional at this point. PBS is a line delivery system and your work rules can be incorporated into any PBS line delivery system. The BS has more to do with our poorly written contract language than PBS.
I honestly see why you guys think you have it good; your previous contract was such a piece of ****, that anything would've been an improvement. Well after reading both contracts I can tell all of you that there's only two things that the ASA contract have over the XJT contract. So you guys owe it to yourselves to educate yourselves, your MEC won't do it because their lips are stuck to management's ass. So take it upon yourselves to do the research, it will be eye opening.
ASA contract has a higher min day credit, 2/1 duty rig. In addition, ASA Relief Line Holders are now full line holders as are more than half of the previous number of reserves. Before anyone cries that PBS means less pilots, our management has ben heard whining that they haven't been able to reduce costs by reducing staffing with PBS.
Personally, I have researched the Express contract and would prefer that the ASA pilot group step into it as is. That said, the entire pilot group would benefit from a PBS system with well defined work rules.
The main reason why we will never see PBS on the combined company is because the company will never include our contractual language/protections in the system, because defeats the purpose for them. For every XJT pilot PBS is and will always be a concession, and non of us are willing to take hit for asa or management or anyone else. So deal with it, we have about 1000 more votes.
Unfortunately, it won't work the way you want it. If management wants PBS and we go to arbitration over it, the arbiter will see that PBS is industry standard and we will get PBS.
The 1000 vote thing that keeps getting brought up is an elementary school playground taunt. If the Express pilot group does not like the TA, they vote it down. If the ASA pilot group does not like the TA, they vote it down. We vote separately on the TA, not as a combined group.
Wow! The inaccuracies! I don't even know where to begin. Documents of interest:
Transition Agreements (both asa's and XJT's)
Re read you contracts, both our CA's and FO's average over 17% just in soft money.
We spend on average 1-2 hours bettering our lives per month, in a system that honors both seniority and fairness towards the junior guys, instead of the "you get what you get and that's it!" bull**** system called pbs. Management wants it because it eliminates month-end transition issues, and because it would undermine our work rules. Not going to happen!
Learn your terms chief, as mentioned above we don't go to arbitration for the contract, just the seniority list (and we will). Here's the bad news for you and everyone else, if the contract negotiations go to mediation we all stand to lose a lot more than our bidding systems.
pbs will never be voted in! Mark my words.