Originally Posted by
SpecialTracking
Certainly you are not going to argue that there was even the slightest possibility that the sale of a few 767-200's would harm the CAL pilots to the tune of $8500/pilot? That is so void of rational thought that only the inexperienced would remotely accept that as a possibility.
Yes, J Pos received instructions from the CAL mec, and he rightfully attempted to gain profit sharing within the confines of the TPA. Your MEC was well within their right to seek benefits for the CAL pilots. You are not going to find many UAL pilots who don't think you should get $40 million. The issue arises when there is a belief the status quo was violated at the hand of UCH management vis a vis J Pos.
So it's okay to renew a TPA giving CAL pilots profit sharing. A TPA that currently does not include profit sharing for CAL pilots. But it is not okay to ask for a monetary gain for the UAL pilots. A financial benefit which is not currently included for the UAL pilots. It's called status quo.
Unrealistic demands presented to management? They are called opening requests. Negotiations usually ensue. Amazing how quick it was for UCH management to walk away, only to return to J Pos to craft a nifty little side deal.
Profit sharing was a negotiated benefit for the UAL to partially offset the pay losses we incurred in bankruptcy. Yes, you incurred a pay cut as well, but not like the haircut we took. You make how much more than us? Right.
Special,
If I haven't made it clear before, I respect the position of the UAL pilots in regards to how this profit sharing came about. That doesn't mean I agree with the view that is a violation of status quo, but I understand and respect it. I don't respect name calling and personal attacks though.
I know that the majority of UAL pilots are glad to see CAL pilots get profit sharing. I say the majority because I had at least one tell me that the CAL pilot group was stealing the UAL pilots' rightfully earned money.
Just playing devil's advocate here if I can. Status quo also involves the current CBAs as well. Since our contract has a grievance process to include how to settle those grievances, status quo (i.e. the use of the CBA language) allowed the CAL MEC to get profit sharing for the CAL pilots.
I for one want this JCBA done, done now and done correctly so that we can all move forward. I can't wait for Age 65 to kick in the fall so we finally get some movement at OUR NEW UAL company and hire new blood to fill our ranks. All of us have very similar goals and I hope some of these side issues don't deflect us from that finish line.