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Old 02-17-2012 | 04:39 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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Alpha,

What can I say? Congratulations for unifying a group as different as Carl, ACL65, and me ... that's an accomplishment.

What this should indicate is that when the Company is on track for a 2 Billion dollar profit, displacements and staffing cuts, early outs and outsourcing, are not acceptable to your pilot group. ALPA needs to figure this out and get on the right side of the issue. That's scope; from Joint Venture & Codeshare, to the 2 year GoJets Captain flying out of LGA. ALPA needs to get on board with its pilots.
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
When someone is describing a company as "slowly liquidating", they're talking about the assets, such as aircraft. If memory serves, DAL is operating ~70 aircraft less now than right after the merger.

The fact that we still have roughly the same number of pilots as when we had 70 more aircraft only proves that we're way fat on pilots right now, which all of us already know. It does nothing to bolster your goofy attempt at trying to "prove" we're not slowly liquidating. It's all the more troubling that you behave this way as one of our unelected MEC bureaucrats. Everytime you guys try this type of obfuscation, you lose more credibility.

Carl
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl
DAL needs to be replacing 35 airplanes a year to renew the fleet every 20 years. We are far from that and that is concerning. A lot of our jets are getting older and many will need to replace about the same time. That is a lot of money at once.
Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
Took me almost 4 years to make was I was making at a regional! That's just sad!
Cycle, with the displacements a lot of pilots will dip in 2012 to less than their Regional pay; I'd guess about 1,100 or so (+ or - those who were hired as FO's). When you correct for inflation the number is larger.

Again, the point is that outsourcing is an abrogation of seniority. Those GoJets pilots doing our flying out of LGA are also earning a lot less than we did as Regional pilots. The Comair pilots who are furloughed are making nothing. The common interest we all have is that a lack of good scope policy is allowing this career destruction.

My reasoning for applying to Delta (aside from the fact I always wanted to fly Delta) was to align the name of the side of the airplane to my paycheck; and have my MEC negotiate my scope. As much as I carp about it, they've protected us better than we would have been protected at any of the regionals.

In other words, we came to the best island in a group of islands which are slipping beneath the waves as a result of inadequate protections.

Last edited by Bucking Bar; 02-17-2012 at 05:19 AM.