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Old 02-19-2012 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by odog1121
You do realize you're the generation that negotiated and agreed to the rates that rewarded yourselves at the expense of up and coming pilots right? I was born into the situation that your generation created.
*Absolutely amazing......stunning actually (well, actually not). Eagle WAS a "career" carrier where one could stay and make a decent living with a decent QWL. $100-120,000/year once you paid your dues and thus many have. Now guys like you are actually angry it's impeded your desire to make it an upgrade puppy mill to get somewhere else, thus turning the place to crap.*I'm SOOOOOOO glad I left. *
Originally Posted by odog1121
The legacy unions wouldn't sell out their future members with the low rates but the regional young turks at the time (you) decided, "let's bring the jets here and give the company the cost advantage to fly them here at the expense of new hires.
*No that decision wasn't made by the pilots, my little turk. Not a single pilot at Eagle was allowed to vote on any such issue. Look to the unions who dropped the ball there furthering the "us and them" mentality.*
Originally Posted by odog1121
Remember when Eagle was having trouble hiring a couple years back? The company wanted to give newhires a sign on bonus and a retention bonus after the first year. Senior captains here wouldn't sign on unless there was some monetary gain for themselves.
*Wrong again. Look to your ALPA leadership for any such decision and BTW, those guys were all in the middle of the seniority range for the most part. The logic there was, since most of them were junior captains or senior F/O's they wanted to ensure any improvements were across the board and NOT simply something to help the company oot of the jam it created for itself by being unable to attract pilots.*
Originally Posted by odog1121
Remember senior captains at Eagle demanding exit bonus or second year pay at AA.
*Many preferred to stay and how could you blame them ?*In their 40's and 50's with kids in college, many simply couldn't leave Eagle just to help the company out of...........yep, another jam they created for themselves. Of course, it does anger the young turks dreaming for the upgrade puppy mill environment so THEY can get theirs and split.*Not a sinlge pilot wanting asking for those got it either.*
Originally Posted by odog1121
Your generation is truly the entitlement generation while putting blame on everyone else.
*I think you've got it backwards. THAT generation was greatful to get the right seat of a metroliner or BE-99 with 2500 hours in their pockets along with 500 multi survivng late-night fleabag freight operators. The new Ritilan-fueled young turks are enraged they're not hired with 500 total time and 25 hours multi and aren't captain on a 70-seat jet airliner at the age of 27 with 3000 hours.*Thanks dog, you've definately made my day. I'll be laughing on and off till dinnertime.
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