Originally Posted by
BigGuns
Let us do some simple yet liberal math and understand the economies of scale here at Delta... Delta operates 800,000+ flights annually (not counting DCI).
$35,000 /yr raise
x12,000 pilots 1
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$420,000,000
/800,000 flts per year 2
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$525 per flight
/ 75 1st seats sold 3
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$7.00 a ticket on 1st 75 seats sold to cover the pay increase 4- 12,000 is more than the acuatlly number that would get the raise. (driving the cost lower)
- 800,000 does not including the DCI flights. (driving the cost lower)
- Delta has 710 aircraft with an averaged seat count of 174 seats. So with 80+% load factors Delta could easly spread that cost out over even more seats. (driving the cost lower)
- Without even including DCI in ticket sales cost can be spread out further:
- $52.5 on 1st 10 seats sold,
- $10 on 1st 53 seats sold,
- $5.25 per ticket on 1st 100 seats sold,
- $4.20 on 1st 120 seats sold, the more sold the lower and lower the cost.
These numbers are higher than the real cost when you add in DCI tickets, and real number of pilots on the payroll. Cargo and other ancillary revenue could also drive this cost even lower.
Delta Air Lines can afford a big pay raise, and ALPA needs to be communicating this type of info to its membership!!!
You're managing expectations upwards.
Disclaimer... public math about to happen:
BTW, $35K raise is pretty good but the 401K on top of that will add more. Unless we're willing to go with less 401K contribution? I don't know if I am. But that'd be a 22K raise if it was done that way.
So I say 35K plus 14% or $40K gross plus I'd guess another 15% in FICA, medicare and other taxes so $46K per pilot x 11,000 (say 1K are on mil leave or NBC) and it comes to $500K or so cost to the airline and $35K in our pocket.
Say a typical 7 year NB FO on the 738, at min pay they'd make $133K and $158/hr. We'd best FedEx NB pay for same years by $14k and SWA by $3K and increase costs here by $500K.
So I guess that's a 32% raise to get $35k in base pay? 32% is in the range of that DPA survey of 1,000 or so pilots so may be it's a good sampling of what was demanded by the pilots in the ALPA survey.
All in favor say Don't Kill Cats for Money.