Originally Posted by
odog1121
Eagle was a "career carrier" making 100-120K/yr? Your generation made it a career carrier for who? For yourselves at the top that's who. Mainline would have flown those airplanes for the respectable captain rates that we have, but would not subject future hires for 35K/yr indefinitely so they rejected the rates. Guess who said yes to those rates, your generation. Your generation set up the pay structure that we currently operate under so you can fly shiny jets. You justify it under the guise of paying your dues. Great, now we're paying our dues on 50/70 seater jets instead of metroliners, now that you're at AA, I guess you can play the same game with 320s and 737s, newhires top out at $50 because we need to pay our dues, and it's our fault that we come to work under a scale that you signed off on. Your reasoning is total garbage.
Pure manure.
We made it a career carrier for those who planned to stay and paid their dues. It took 15 years or more for most. We DIDN'T make it a career for those simply interested in getting their PIC time and splitting and thus NOT paying their dues there. Those are the parasites who are only interested in sucking the sap out of the place and splitting before they have to smell the waste they left behind. It doesn't surprise me to see you can't comprehend my reasoning. Obviously, you couldn't care less about Eagle being a long-term career oriented company, just a disposable vehicle to get you to somewhere else.
Of course, that's why Eagle has now become the toilet it is.
Originally Posted by
odog1121
"Many preferred to stay and how could you blame them ?*In their 40's and 50's with kids in college, many simply couldn't leave Eagle just to help the company out of...........yep, another jam they created for themselves. "
I'm not blaming them that they're staying, but to have the balls to use what leverage we have to demand an exit package instead of using it to gain contractual improvements to the pilots who are here is shows the selfishness of your entitlement generation. How is this a jam that the company created? By them paying you the wages that you negotiated and are a slave to now?
It's not senior pilots demanding anything. It's ALPA trying to grease their own wheels going somewhere else (mid-seniority pilots). Those senior are simply saying, "I'm staying unless their is some incentive to go elsewhere". It was characters like you that cheered the loudest when ALPA tried to throw those senior under the bus and require them to decide to flow before they even got an AA class date. It was characters like you who hooted and howled when ALPA came up with the "Dear Eric" campaign to find jobs for those senior at other carriers. "Just gimme my upgrade, so I can split", they cried..............
Originally Posted by
odog1121
You keep saying we want to turn this place into an upgrade mill. I personally don't give a crap about the upgrade. My QOL is AWESOME as it is, they pay raise I'd get or PIC time I would get isn't worth a quarter of the QOL I'd be giving up. If I worked at AA I wouldn't mind if I was an FO for the rest of my life because they pay respectable wages. At Eagle, your generation created this wage disparity under the guise of paying your dues and now you're blaming others for wanting to upgrade. Jeeesh, take a little responsibility.
If your QOL is "awesome", what are you whining on this forum for ?
Get off your broken soapbox and stop attempting to demand others accomodate your interests. What you want out of a career may not be what another wants. Jeeesh, take a little responsibility for yourself and stop blaming everyone else for your awsome quality of life, would you ?
