Originally Posted by
Wingtips
eaglefly, you lack a business understanding. I bet you think that its ok to have all these federal entitlements like oh say the PBGC, and its ok to run around with a 16+ trillion debt that is increasing by 1 trillion a year! As long as you get your medicare and SSI and PBGC, then your happy because you got your own.
What does this have to do with Eagle ?
It seems you've cooked up a strawman argument to give yourself some credibility. I ran two business on the side each of which made me more money then my Eagle salary (1 since sold). To come on an internet forum and claim you know all about someone else simply based on posting here is laughable, even more so considering your junior status at Eagle itself.
Please.
Originally Posted by
Wingtips
The second you make a REGIONAL a high paying career destination, someone creates an upstart with new employees system wide and they come and compete. Suddenly you either take cuts to compete or go away. Seems to be in every industry in this country. We are labor. Now Eagle faces the problem that they are expensive, and either they can fix that or someone like Mesa, gojet, or TSA will take the flying at 20% less rates.
Eagle is no different then the majority of other regional carriers in regards to pay, scheduling, etc. Eagle's theoretical problem is pilot longevity (seniority) which is seen by managment as the deficiency in the "cost" side of their equation. I say theoretical in that it is simply something to target by management.
Eagle is expensive ?
Perhaps you should read the 10-K filings where the CEO represents Eagle's costs as competitive.
The forumula you are trying to validate is the exact forumla airline managments across the board use to drive labor costs downward (you should shoot your resume in to Centreport). Pilot-wise it's a formula only beleived by easily led suckers. It costs A LOT of money nowadays to start an airline and the risks in this environment are extremely high, like getting financing, the limitations of slots and facilities at airports, penetrating markets, infrastructure, contracts, etc.
All AMR wants to do is eliminate their disadvantage of longevity. Problem with that is, if carriers like Eagle get more and larger RJ's, that eats more mainline jobs away as those carriers shrink. If anyone buys into the baloney your doling out here on this, future pilots will simply be enablers in a philosophy of undercutting themselves based on fear of the unknown.
Sounds like you've already swallowed that lure, hook, line and sinker and no offense, but I don't think you have any idea of what you're talking about.
Originally Posted by
Wingtips
Same reason Southwest and other low costs eat into mainline flying so easily. Just wait till someone pulls it off successfully on an international scale.
Again, I see your not only advocating a race to the bottom, you see it as necessary. Again, it's sad this is the new breed of pilot coming into the profession nowadays. As such, I see little hope for the future and thankfully, by the time guys like you are wallowing in your own creation, I can watch from a comfortable spot on the sidelines.
BTW, you DO know SWA has hands down the HIGHEST pilot pay for narrowbody passenger aircraft in the U.S., yes ?
In many cases, by a large margin.