Originally Posted by
Tanker-driver
What's the standard in the Herk community? If you're augmented do you still log primary if you're out of the seat? It amazes me how much difference there is between communities when it comes to logging time. I've heard wildly different "techniques" for logging primary instrument and IP time as well. You'd think that at least the heavy communities would be somewhat standardized here.
This is my biggest gripe with AMC -- LACK OF STANDARDIZATION. The problem is, the USAF doesn't use or define PIC or SIC. Instead they use Primary, Secondary, and Other time. Also, there seems to be a misunderstanding of what Primary time is. Primary time is not PIC or A-code time.
PRIMARY: time actively controlling the aircraft, excluding hands-on-time flown while instructing and evaluating
SECONDARY: time while occupying a duty position having a set of flight controls and not actively controlling the aircraft, instructing, or evaluating
OTHER: time flown by members who are on the flight authorization, but who are not occupying a designated duty station or conforming to the requirements of primary, secondary, instructor, or evaluator time
It is that definition of Other time that has HR teams in a tizzy. Since there is no tracking of PIC time or "A-code", someone could have several flights of nothing but OTHER time and could lie and say they were the PIC. Simply put, there is no way to track PIC time in the USAF.
HR teams who regularly hire USAF pilots know the ins and out of AFORMs Flying History reports. Submitting your own logbook may compound the issue -- not to mention it might not be a legal log book if it doesn't contain instructor endorsements.
My two cents .. be conservative, use AFORMs for USAF military flying time verification, and DON'T use other time.