Originally Posted by
tsquare
When have I EVER said that I accept any of this? EVER...
I know you. I have actually met you before on a couple of occasions. Like most of us on here, our forum personas are vastly different than the ones we live day to day.
Your constant mantra about giving up too easily is purely emotion based, neither you nor I nor anybody on this board have one idea what the openers will be. Actually, I couldn't care less about the openers, because I know they will be in line for attaining what the group asked for in the survey. I just care about the end product.... The WHOLE product. I know exactly where you are going to go after I said that, but I will let you fire away first just so I can frame the answer to fit your rant.
Well that's interesting, because I do not remember ever meeting you.
My "mantra" is not emotion based. It's observation based. Ever since the bankruptcy, DALPA officials and aficionados have consistently focused on all the reasons why we supposedly cannot "reasonably" expect restoration. Every time somebody brings up the topic, they downplay the possibility. It's always the economy, "razor thin margins", Delta can't afford it, etc., etc. Some of these are challenges, but not hard and fast limitations. And then they try to make it sound like the improvements we've gotten since BK have us well on the way to where we want to be. And the Touch & Gos we received focused on comparisons and data that would tend to make the case against restoration, while leaving out data like a true comparison with SWA pilots W2's and C2K+COLA.
I could go on with my "rant"... but today is trade day for the investment method I use and I've got to get on with that.
We aren't going to agree on this. Your mind is made up and so is mine.