Originally Posted by
USMC3197
Line building can only do that if company builds lines that workout perfectly.
Nope, line bidding can do that because of the work rules associated with it.
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
ASA PBS system lets ALL pilots senior AND jr do that.
That's ONLY because of the work rule associated with the system, vacation low
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
But that is just one example of our PBS system. Over all the system is good but I admit we can use some improvement. Not so much in the PBS program but in what company can and can't do. To be fair an example is flying extra on a vacation month. If we are awarded below guarantee and pick up stuff it's not added on top like you guys.
AGAIN, that's a work rule thing, has NOTHING to do with PBS or line bidding.
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
Which I think is BS and why we don't pick up open time on vacation months. It's not a perfect system but for now with all the options out there currently in use, I think our system is one of the better ones. I tell xjet pilots that ask me about it in ORD to not judge and just wait till it goes on the roadshow and see for yourself. Hear what we pilots currently using have to say and look at it. Hear the flaws hear the good and test it. I was against it at 1st but it ended up creating more lines.
Sounds like a good plan. Any chance of reciprocity on that? Ooops, never mind, silly question.
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
Also after the roadshow see how it works out when you guy run a few months bidding PBS along with line bidding. That is when most of us saw the difference.
Been beat to death elsewhere, it doesn;t work with the XJT contract. "Square peg in a round hole" is the way it gets summed up.
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
If we are lucky the new ASA XJET MEC will get many of the flaws out by then. I will say if it goes to arbitration I think we ALL will lose and company will win. Lately it seems like it always goes their way in arbitration. So if company really wants it we may not be able to stop it. And like I said, it's not that bad.
We DON'T want a system that's "not that bad". We want one that's the best out there and retains all the QOL provisions of our current contract, AT A MINIMUM. The ASA PBS software DOESN'T do that.
Originally Posted by
USMC3197
For us it was better. Many senior guys hate it due to crappy pairings. Our PBS system doesnt create parings. It's a bad misunderstanding in our part and it leads to misguided options about our PBS. I agree our pairings sometimes... many times stink and it seems like company and ALPA is working on that. Our system can only build trips with pairings that COMPANY dumps into it. Blah blah blah..... Again, if you read all this [b]just wait till roadshow and ask questions, dont assume.]/b]
You're assuming it's already a done deal and set up for a road show. Contrary to what people may think they know, or rather are assuming, it's NOT. And like your last words, DON'T ASSUME. Don't assume that just because the PBS system is better than the crappy line bid system you used to have that the XJT line bid system is the SAME.