I think you mean Delta Employee's kids? I don't think Retiree's kids gets benefits unless it's on a buddy pass, who goes below us. I'm not saying I agree with what Delta is doing but I'll use your example. What about my kids and my spouse? Since they are not generating any revenue for Delta. Would you be mad if your whole family got split up and your kids or spouse didn't get on, however you did since you are S3C however there's a lot of Compass, Skywest, ASA Go Jets bump the rest of your family, since you say they not generating revenue. I know it sucks that we get bumped when some retirees who wants to go on a mini vacation while you're trying to get home or work. Where should our spouse or kids stand since they are not generating revenue for Delta. Should they go below us active employees or keep it the same. If we keep it the same as us, shouldn't Delta's spouse or kids be the same as the active employees too?