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Old 02-21-2012 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
"It's entirety"?

So how do you deal with the 253 large RJ's, 500+ smaller regional aircraft, AF/KLM/AZ Joint Venture, other international agreements, Skyteam, training, adjustment of pay for other aircraft types.
You have to look at this upcoming contract in the context of a strategy based on the active involvement of the NMB and to ensure your proposals are reasonable. If managment thinks they would have a hard time with what you posted above, fine. Cost it out and have MANAGEMENT explain what they want for a modification. If we can live with it, we accept it. If not, they better think of something else.

Originally Posted by shiznit
"In one fell swoop you would cost the enterprise so much money in cancelled contracts, lack of ability to move passengers, elimination of international feed and connections, in addition to reconfiguring our entire workrule and pay package with unknown effects on the parts of the DAL operation that do not function anything like the SWA model.....
See above.

Originally Posted by shiznit
"In other words, you destroy revenue generation, and increase cash outlay to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars. We'd be right back in BK within a month or two......
See above.

Originally Posted by shiznit
"So the NMB would think that is reasonable how?
The NMB would have no factual basis upon which to claim that our demand is unreasonable. That's a HUGE position of leverage for us to use against management. If MANAGEMENT wants to modify something, we simply say: "What do you want to give up for that?"

Originally Posted by shiznit
"(Plus, many guys don't want the SWA contract... It's not "restoration" IMHO)
IMO, that's because many guys don't know what's in the SWAPA contract. When I tell people what's actually in the SWAPA contract, they are stunned.

Carl