T,

No need to lose any sleep over the "donut-hole, crack-pipe smoking DPA supporters".

The entire group, including Carl on this forum, are in the perfect position. Let me explain.

1. Assuming the contract opener is shared with the pilot group, Carl will come in and state the DPA could've/would've done "better".

2. If the opener isn't shared, and the TA is less than what people think the D-ALPA might've been able to negotiate, again Carl will say the DPA could've/would've done better.

3. If the TA is adequate, in terms of what the pilot group has expressed they wanted, Carl will post........., yup you got it, the DPA could've done better.

I have a great idea. Instead of the DPA supporters always talking about what their "independent, in-house union" could do better, why don't they concentrate on even getting enough ballots (read: support from the pilot group) submitted so that the idea itself can be brought to an election?

The very fact that the DPA is still around, and hasn't offered any public support for our "current bargaining agent" shows Delta management how big of a "dis-unified group of buffoons we really are.

Again, Carl's position on this board, or the DPA thread, is a "win/win" situation. Just like the "Coward-In-Chief's" position we have in the White House. (I'd rather not get into the voting of 747 pilots at NWA to keep their pensions so that the junior guys could hit the street twice, but lets just say that he's not in it for the entire group.) What'd you and your group give up Carl? Some crew meals?

Anyway, bottom line, with one month until contract openers, I think our pilot group needs to appear a little more unified than it does, but what do I know?

GJ