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Old 02-22-2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
T,

No need to lose any sleep over the "donut-hole, crack-pipe smoking DPA supporters".
With such a well thought out and fact based introduction, I'm sure the rest of this post will just be scintillating.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
The entire group, including Carl on this forum, are in the perfect position. Let me explain.

1. Assuming the contract opener is shared with the pilot group, Carl will come in and state the DPA could've/would've done "better".
It won't be, so it's a moot point.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
2. If the opener isn't shared, and the TA is less than what people think the D-ALPA might've been able to negotiate, again Carl will say the DPA could've/would've done better.
No, because that would be unknowable since DPA wasn't negotiating. What I would say in your scenario is that DALPA did its own thing instead of the pilots will. Since the basis of your scenario is that the TA is less than what people think DALPA might have been able to negotiate...that by definition would mean that DALPA didn't understand its pilot's views.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
3. If the TA is adequate, in terms of what the pilot group has expressed they wanted, Carl will post........., yup you got it, the DPA could've done better.
No way. If that happened, I would post that DALPA did the right thing by their pilots and would no longer be seeking another union.

Carl