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Old 02-22-2012 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
We have 4,400 cards earned from only a website and two small public events. This from a group that rarely particiaptes in numbers greater than 50% for anything. If you knew anything about polling, you'd know that an in-house union already has the majority. If DALPA called for a vote today (just to be sure), they'd lose in a landslide. Why? 50% wouldn't vote at all. And all 4,400 DPA members are some seriously energized folks. DALPA knows this and, as such, would never call for a vote.
Maybe D-ALPA isn't calling for a vote because they're too busy.....wait for it....wait for it....TOO FRICKEN BUSY PREPARING FOR YOUR SECTION 6 NEGOTIATIONS CARL!! Open your eyes. Nobody wants to waste their time switching bargaining agents this close to a negotiation period. It'd literally be "cutting our own throats".

You think D-ALPA would lose in a landslide? You don't have any other facts other than the 4,400 cards you proclaim, and I guarantee you that of those 4,400 that "expressed interest in DPA" wouldn't automatically vote the same in a true election of bargaining agents. Don't tell me you think they would Carl, come on!

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's just highly opinionated rhetoric. The truth is that most DPA members have a high distrust of DALPA, but a much greater distrust of management. When it comes to a fight against management to improve the lives of our families, we'll be behind whatever entity has the legal right to bargain for us. Period. I know this is the latest popular straw man being floated by DALPA, but it's a lie.
As is your opinions that DPA would have a "snowballs chance" doing the same or better against our management team than what D-ALPA has to offer. I believe the group has made some progress with management, OUTSIDE OF SECTION 6, all the while DPA is counting their cards, hoping to get to that magical, (or mythical ) number.

You say that the DPA members distrust of management is greater than their distrust of D-ALPA. Where is that Carl? Or is that just some highly opinionated rhetoric again? Come on? Quit talking out both sides of your mouth, and have DPA PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS, and establish some communication to the pilot group stating these, what you call, FACTS. (Correction: You didn't call them facts, but I'm assuming since you put them on a forum, and your a man of facts, instead of highly opinionated rhetoric, that you'll direct me to where I can read this communication?)