thanks, ya it would be just a C, as it is a 2006 machine. you wouldn't happen to have any challenger 300 time or insight would you?? the boss is trying to figure out which to go with. I've got 604 time and 2000 time, and because his footprint is short, as well as operating costs, i lean towards the Falcon. also the 604 was touchy in crosswinds, from what I remember. Any gouge would be appreciated.