Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
I don't know if it is worth responding, because even when you are corrected on your facts, you continue to repeat falsehoods. It seems like you might be a more effective advocate if you would simply stick to the facts.
1. We have a pay rate already established for EMB-190/195, so why are you babbling on about diluting MD-88 pay rates? Delta doesn't buy the EMB-190 because the plane sucks.
2. Do you seriously consider even for a minute that ALPA has any input at all into the fleet purchases that Delta makes? This is and of itself is the most ludicrous accusation you have ever made.
3. Comair and ASA pilots were not merged with Delta because the companies were not merged. You know this fact, you know this is the reason there was no seniority integration and yet you continue to repeat the same lies over and over. Why? Please hammer this fact into your brain once and for all: Delta and Comair or ASA were never merged therefore there was no seniority integration.
4. Compass pilots work for a different airline and yet you want Delta pilots to negotiate their contract. If this doesn't sound insane to you then it should. Maybe the United MEC should negotiate our next contract or maybe Spirit.
5. You claim we have some partnership to permit outsourcing. The issue of more outsourcing was the last item negotiated at the last minute of the last day. This was the most difficult issue of the entire bankruptcy negotiation. Your characterization is insulting and false.
What is truly rotten to the core is how your self pity has taken you to abandon any source of decency or integrity and leads you to post this drivel. Sometimes you have a decent insight into the industry and sometimes you are so helplessly self indulgent that you spew out any crap that enters your head.
1. Agreed, although Delta has been a fan of the E175 at Compass pay rates.
2. Yes, the fact Delta management has bought airplanes to maximize allowances under scope documents this assertion. The fact Air France management in a coordinated effort with Delta management has reallocated their heavy metal across the Delta network shows the effect of the temporary relaxation in our JV enforcement protocol.
3. How many Delta managers voted at the 2000 ALPA Board of Director's meeting? Best I can recall, the number was, zero. D-ALPA did not want a merger in any event and stated their opinion via their vote.
4. Your being silly. Spirit is no comparison. Compass operates exclusively Delta flying, was owned by Delta and the NWA MEC had little difficulty with the Compass contract. Ideally, if you approached this correctly, you would desire Compass pilots be Delta pilots and thus covered by the Delta PWA.
5. Chairman McClain explained the process well in NWA's ziplines. The NWA MEC was proud of the fact bargaining credits were received in exchange for scope relaxation. Their publications are sufficient to show how the "partnership" worked. The resulting scope language was pasted into our current PWA. In addition, I am sure you are aware that folks outside the Delta MEC have our negotiators' notes. Let me know if you would like to broaden our public debate with more documentation (I've not seen them and base my opinion as to what was in those documents on the basis of the testimony published during depositions which were briefly online).
At the end of the day, if you prefer to externalize our scope failures, fine. I'm not trying to embarrass any of the truly good folks who represent us. It is water over the dam. My only goal is to focus on better policy going forward and get ALPA to fight outsourcing like the poison it is.
As for your personal insult, I'm quite comfortable calling it what it is. It takes a bit of integrity and confidence to post something here and then show up at every LEC meeting, make resolutions and participate in the process knowing some in the room would as soon rip my head off as look my way. I grew up in a better Delta and a better ALPA and expect we will all achieve that high standard. So call me what you will. You should be know readers will judge what they read here based on the objective data they can correlate and results.