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Old 02-24-2012 | 04:36 PM
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[QUOTE=alfaromeo;1140684]I don't know if it is worth responding, because even when you are corrected on your facts, you continue to repeat falsehoods. It seems like you might be a more effective advocate if you would simply stick to the facts.

1. We have a pay rate already established for EMB-190/195, so why are you babbling on about diluting MD-88 pay rates? Delta doesn't buy the EMB-190 because the plane sucks.



Anybody notice all of those EMB-175s running around? Yeah, the plane sucks. Just imagine if Compass could fly the EMB-190, add a bunch more seats pretty much for the same cost. I'm sure if we gave up some scope Delta would order them. What do yall think?



Yeah, that plane sucks. Delta hates them... flown by Double Breasted Suit wearing Van Admirals.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
2. Do you seriously consider even for a minute that ALPA has any input at all into the fleet purchases that Delta makes? This is and of itself is the most ludicrous accusation you have ever made.

3. Comair and ASA pilots were not merged with Delta because the companies were not merged. You know this fact, you know this is the reason there was no seniority integration and yet you continue to repeat the same lies over and over. Why? Please hammer this fact into your brain once and for all: Delta and Comair or ASA were never merged therefore there was no seniority integration.

4. Compass pilots work for a different airline and yet you want Delta pilots to negotiate their contract. If this doesn't sound insane to you then it should. Maybe the United MEC should negotiate our next contract or maybe Spirit.
Couple of questions:

1. When the whole Compass thing was going on a few years back, and there was a website dedicated to it, out of curiosity was anyone at the MEC level referring to E190s/CRJ900s (how that's one plane on the pay rate I don't know) and other regional jets as FLAPS? And what does FLAPS mean? F-ing Little Airplane Pilots or Airplanes? I never understood but it seemed as if there was some extreme hostility directed towards these aircraft and/or the pilots that fly them or used to fly them and are here now complaining about outsourcing.

And the thing is sure ALPA doesn't have anything to do with fleet orders but go back to the inception of the CRJ-100, could something have been done to prevent this mess then? If so, then ALPA can have a hand if it wants.

2. As to UAL negotiating Delta's contract... could DAL pilots flow to UAL though?

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
5. You claim we have some partnership to permit outsourcing. The issue of more outsourcing was the last item negotiated at the last minute of the last day. This was the most difficult issue of the entire bankruptcy negotiation. Your characterization is insulting and false.
I don't know if there is a partnership with DAL to outsource, but isn't there a partnership in essence between ALPA and DALPA as well as the other ALPA carriers who are flying is outsourced too?

And who was it that said regional jets were good for mainline pilots?

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
What is truly rotten to the core is how your self pity has taken you to abandon any source of decency or integrity and leads you to post this drivel. Sometimes you have a decent insight into the industry and sometimes you are so helplessly self indulgent that you spew out any crap that enters your head.
Well, Bar, he's got a point. We do need to work on your love of the MD-88. Just saying.

Last edited by forgot to bid; 02-24-2012 at 04:52 PM.