Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
1. So you state that ALPA is intentionally blocking purchase of a 100 seat jet and then you walk back from that statement immediately.
I did not, nor do I, walk away from that statement. ASA, Comair and Compass all brought 100 seat types to the table and in every case the Delta MEC has either voted to divest them, or to deny them a Policy Implementation Date for their merger request. Again, regardless of whether management would have, or would not have, merged the airlines, the MEC spoke its intentions via recorded votes.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
2. None of that makes any sense in the context of ALPA having control over Delta's fleet decisions.
Delta has bought the airplanes that ALPA has allowed to be outsourced.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
3. When was the vote that Delta ALPA took to oppose a merger with Comair or ASA? ... You set up this vast conspiracy in ALPA when in fact Delta management had no intention of ever merging those companies.
The vote was at the ALPA Board of Director's meeting October, 2000, on the 15th I believe. As for the second part of your statement, what say you on Bil Swelbar's article which recounts the same history? You call it "conspiracy" but it is just pattern bargaining.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
4. Of course we desire Compass pilots to be part of Delta and be Delta pilots. That was not the way that organization was set up and Delta management had no intention of merging the two companies. That simply leaves the question of who should represent the Compass pilots. That answer was clearly the Compass pilots and not some other pilot group. Delta ALPA had no more right to represent them than did United or Spirit. So you state that ALPA "divested" Compass. They did nothing of the sort.
On Friday, October 9, 2009, the Delta MEC (after a series of re-writes) chose the verbiage to "restructure" Compass outside of the Delta MEC. The vote went along pre-merger lines and was the first split vote of our MEC if I am not mistaken.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
5. You well know I had nothing to do with whatever Capt. McClain said in his ziplines. I know what happened at Delta. It was a very difficult fight. ALPA made a lengthy presentation about how we could affordably fly 76 seat aircraft at Delta. In the end, the leverage in bankruptcy was tilted heavily in management's favor. If you don't believe me, then ask the 6 out of 6 labor groups that all had their contracts rejected in bankruptcy. Now you make some veiled reference to having negotiator notes. If someone stole someone's personal notes, then they should have the guts to stand up and say what they are. For now, you get to make vague accusations about some misdeeds without having to show any evidence at all.
Don't be disingenuous. You were not trying to "make policy better". You were throwing bombs at people. Quit pretending like you weren't.
This isn't about you (as far as I know). You personalized it. The NWA scope section and their negotiations are part of our contract. You and I agree, NWA set up Compass in a very flawed form and my allegation is that they did it for the exact same reasons we outsourced small jet flying here (and at United for that matter).
As for Delta's negotiation notes, they were subpoenaed by Counsel for the Comair and ASA pilots in their class action suit (which I refused to join). However, I did read nearly everything they posted on their web site including the depositions which reviewed these negotiators' notes. Since you seem to enjoy challenges, I'll ask again, you want me to see if I can get that atty to give us a copy?
If someone reads my post and thinks a bomb is aimed at any one individual, then they are the one with the problem. I have no clue who you are.