Originally Posted by
lolwut
That'd be the same company and the same list. It'd be pretty easy to call it one pilot group. You're just operating it with two contracts... one vastly subpar to the other... and growing the number of pilots on the subpar one.
American can fly a million 88 seaters (or whatever kind of RJ) if it wants. At mainline, by mainline pilots.
I'm just failing to see how outsourcing is good for the mainline pilot. Look at United... they allowed larger RJs to be outsourced and parked their entire 737 fleet without replacement. Thousands of pilots put on the street. Look at US Airways... they used to fly DC-9s, F-100s, and 737s throughout the east coast... now many cities do not see a single mainline jet and the carrier is a fraction of its former size.
RJs may allow for the opening of a few new markets, but for the most part they're just used to replace mainline jobs. It isn't good for anyone.... even the RJ pilots. Every new RJ may get you a little bit more seniority at your regional, but at the same time, reduces mainline jobs and therefore upward movement at your carrier and your opportunity to go to mainline yourself.
Originally Posted by
labbats
1- Outsourcing is bad. Relaxing scope is bad. It is always bad.
2- I worked at Eagle. I have friends at Eagle. The majority would not high five over another 10 years at a regional wage to fly bigger planes. There will always be a minority at every airline that are stooges and I'm certain those same few are the ones cyber-high-fiving.
3- Eaglefly- May I suggest that as a former Eagle guy you show a little more restraint about painting everyone at your previous carrier with the same tainted brush. Once again Eagle guys have to cringe when they jumpseat on AA because of a rumor pushed on the internet.
I hear ya guys, but you have to recognize the gravity of the situation. You cannot ask a company that is bleeding money and clearly at an competitive disadvantage to its competition to continue operating the same way. That's how any third party person(Especially the judge), will see it. AMR pilots must come to some sort of agreement on relaxing scope with management or one much worse will be imposed.