Albie pretty good post and as one of the most adamant what are you idiots doing giving away the shop for 2 X 3% raises; I agree the past is past. We just have to sit and wait till the company is ready to talk money (in 3 or 4 years) while we work the small stuff.

But again the Alpapac 2010 numbers were 85% D 14% R. 2010 is not 2006/2008. Hate to tell the PAC but they bet on the wrong horse in 2010. Let see how we do in 2012 then we can talk.