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Old 02-29-2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Perhaps you could expand Carl. Please fill us in on what sailingfun has no idea about.
Sure. Here is the post that myself and others described as a great post...emphasis mine:

Originally Posted by dtwairbus320
You are absolutely right about that but I don't think Delta paying you or I what we're worth is going to raise the ticket prices. Look how much Delta has made. They can afford to cough it back up to us and settle for a more modest profit. If I were management, when these annual reports come out with these astronomical profits, I would think to myself "Oh ****, now the pilots are going to want their money back." But hardly any of us seem to think that way. We just get excited about our profit sharing checks and fail to realize all the other employee groups are getting their profit sharing checks too. Guess which labor group allowed them to have their's?

My point was also meant to be more broad. As an entire profession we must demand the highest compensation equal to our level of expertise. If we were truly a unionized workforce in the true sense of the word, every pilot at every airline would be making the same amount based on the job. Just like the Pipefitters and these wages would be kept high. There would be no pay comparisons among airlines. We would all be pilots payed according to our union's schedule. If the airline can't afford to pay us what we are worth, then they don't belong in the airline business.

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There is nothing in the RLA that would prevent us from demanding this. There is nothing in the RLA that would prevent us from achieving what SWAPA, FDX, UPS or any of our other profitable competitors have...even with the NMB involved. Why? Because we are very, very profitable. Therefore, industry leading wages are justifiable, and easily so.

Since there is nothing in the RLA that prevents us from this, when sailingfun made this comment:

Originally Posted by sailingfun
Its a great post until you read the RLA.
one of two things have happened. Either he doesn't know what's in the RLA or the role of the NMB, or he's parrotting the view of DALPA whereby they use their distorted view of the RLA and NMB to pre-excuse failure before negotiations even begin.

Carl