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Old 03-01-2012 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I think the concern over the DALPA opener is that whatever it is will likely be the high water mark that will then be lowered to some degree towards the company's (obviously much lower) opener. IOW, whatever our opener is, there will be little room at that point to go up but infinite room to go down. So if our opener is weak, we start off from a position of weakness and then start bargaining downward from there.

Wanting to see our opener isn't about getting a sneak peak at the definite end result, but rather seeing where we stand and what the high water mark is.

Of course we could always just ask the DCI MEC's what they saw during their required "meet and confers" that way we can at least get an idea on our Section 1 openers. That is, if the DCI MEC's are willing to tell us what's in our own opener. We should ask nice, cause they don't have to tell us either.
Unlike Jack Bauer, I disagree. Let me caveat this by stating that I personally couldn't care less about seeing the opener from other than a curiosity standpoint. I think it will serve no purpose. That being said, once it is out there, the upside potential from there is zero. There is no way to go up from there. If it asks for a 30% pay raise, the company is not going to come back with their response and say... well... we'll give you 35%.. The downside limit is also limited, depending on the subject. Pay could go from a 30% pay raise to a paycut, but even then they could only cut our pay to $0, which would mean that everybody would be doing something else... The downside is not infinite.

I guess what I was trying to say is that no matter what the opener is.. weak, strong.. something in between... there is only down... (from our perspective)

And some are worried about managed expectations... seeing the opener will be the ultimate in that, but like I said before, I am a little curious about it.