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Old 03-02-2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
So because we have always done it that way, that's the way we should continue to do it.. I have always HATED that kind of argument.
I've always hated that type of argument as well, and it's not my argument now. It is just a recitation of history and how we got here.

Originally Posted by tsquare
Management wanted it that way back then because it made sense for them too. They could garner all that "productivity" increase and keep costs down. Of course that is why they wanted it. They were upgrading the fleets in a technological leap that is unequalled today.
OK, I'm glad you don't disagree with that portion of our history. But while it made sense for management to want it back then, it made much more sense for ALPA to fight for productivity based pay...and we ultimately won that argument. We won it (in my view) because you cannot defend a position whereby you want pay that is NOT based upon your productivity to the company. Ultimately, that argument is always a loser.

Carl