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Old 03-02-2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
No, I'm assuming just the opposite. My thesis is the replacement of one 747 with a bunch of narrow bodies. If management did that, it would greatly increase their costs. It's why management can't always give the added frequency that passengers prefer.
Ridiculous. What are we gonna do, relay passengers across the Atlantic and Pacific? Now serving London Heathrow hourly with only 4 stops???? Naaaaah you are making an argument that will have to be dealt with as a SCOPE issue.



Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Our pay does have an affect on the bottom line...just not the huge impact that some on here state. Specifically, some folks here have stated that it was the C2K pilot pay rates that pushed Delta into bankruptcy. Absolute hogwash. Even if the decreased CASM is small for widebodies, it still incentivizes management to buy aircraft with the lowest CASM.
I agree.. and I don't care what airplane they buy because they are gonna buy what they are gonna buy. I want the most pay for the most Delta pilots over the course of their careers that we can possibly get. Not just the few guys that got hired when they were 27... You and Timbo have nowhere to go but down.. There are 11,500 of us that still have a long way to go, and probably 8-9000 that will never reach your Nirvana..



Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I'm not holding on to that thinking at all. It's just a recitation of history. I'm only saying that I don't know if you've (or any of us have) thought out the ramifications of this.

Carl
I have absolutely thought this out. And I am still waiting for a logical justification for the productivity argument... When I hear one, I will shut up and bow to the whale and 777 as being the greatest things since sliced bread.

Sampras v McEnroe... I rather like McEnroe, but I think Sampras would take him

I am having a lot of fun with this discussion btw.