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Old 03-03-2012 | 07:04 PM
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iadfo
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Originally Posted by Zoomie
Sure, perhaps if each individual pilot decided on their own as a LCA they no longer wanted the job, they could quit their LCA duties, but the union organizing such a thing would be illegal. I think you agree here.

If what you say happened back in 2000 is true, that's news to me. However since then, your union has received an injunction which has in essence cut themselves off at the knees. We're playing the game with both hands tied behind our backs.

Has UAL guys stopped picking up open time? No.

I know for sure that hasn't happened at CAL (It's considered a "right" here at CAL) and will never happen here without a huge change in culture. We basically need a clause in our contract like UPS that allows a union to ban open time during a furlough. We don't have that now. Have you talked to your reps to make sure that's in the new contract?
You dont get it, this was not an organized effort by the union. LCA's decided on their own cognisance without persuasion by a union to do this. Yes there are those that pick up time, they are ostracized by other pilots. The line has been drawn in the past when they were harassed for picking up open time. That is not the norm among pilots. Even while the airline is properly staffed and the pilots are under injunction, crew cancellations are not uncommon. Individual pilots just know to do the right thing without being told. Captain "marvin mainliner" just wont get a handshake when he flies with his next FO. When he gets to the hotel he can look forward to a slam click. That's the culture that grew from a pilot group that survived a strike, compared to what is normal at CAL.

Last edited by iadfo; 03-04-2012 at 05:55 AM.
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