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Old 03-06-2012 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by darkzone
Just for Mr. know everything pilots out there who have been suffering lot till they got their dream 121 job after couple thousands hours and supporting the 1500 Hrs rule. Please be advised that all rest of world airlines do hire 250 wonders and give them great training. These guys fly 737's at these minimums and they upgrade to 777 FO when they reach 2000-2500. They can also do well when emergency happens. See link below and let's think what is wrong with our aviation training here in US. Sad but true neither training departments nor experienced captains wants to share experience and spend extra time training new pilots. Everyone shall set back and relax and new pilots shall suffer for few years paying dues till they hold a line at 121 carrier for freaking peanuts of pay scale. This is ridiculous. Working as CFI may help build some hours but doesn't help learning SOP, CRM, V1 Cuts, Pressurization and emergency descents, TCAS conflict, Dutch rolls, manual reversions, systems, Engine failures, separations, fire....etc


Transatlantic jet diverts to Shannon as engine fails | Irish Examiner
Your views of the world and how it works are slightly narrow minded. If you think that saving an airplane from an engine failure makes you a good safe pilot, you may need more experience. Saving the airplane from the pilot is the real task. So many perfectly good airplanes were destroyed due to an inexperienced pilot and how they reacted. (Colgan, Air France, that crazy European 737 that lost 8000FT instantly because the F.O. had no clue what the hell he was doing) It has nothing to do with how many hours they had when they crashed or saved the airplane. It has to do with how many hours they had before they got the job. The laws of primacy actually play a significant role in real life.

If you have 1500 hours before you get to a job flying flesh and meat around, you have probably had time to scare the crap out of yourself and learned what not to do in a more forgiving environment. Everyone should go upside down in an aircraft whether it is inadvertent or intentional. One way or another you should have done that several times before you get to the airline environment. Everyone should have gone out and flown with friends and experienced what flying has to offer before you get to flying lots of people around in an extremely dynamic environment. Mistakes happen as we are only human but pilots need time to make a lot of those mistakes before they get to the airlines. 250hrs isn't enough time to do that. The first time you have to make life or death decisions shouldn't be in an airliner when you are captain having been hired with 25hrs of actual PIC time.

And maybe this new rule may save some frustration along the way. How do you know that becoming a pilot is something you are really meant to do? Many guys should not be flying airplanes for a living but are stuck in the job and pose quite a threat. Had they needed to actually try to get the job instead of having it given to them they probably would have washed out and realized there are other things to do in life.

This change isn't a fix all solution. But it is a step in the right direction. I will support it all the way. It's not about paying your dues, but rather respecting what a true professional pilot requires to one day be of value. Once we all realize that, the prestige of being an airline pilot may one day exist again.
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