Thread: Spirit of NKS
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:49 AM
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skybolt
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Originally Posted by shiftwork View Post
You must live a charmed life Ram????? (Healthy, top 10% of earning in America, interesting occupation etc.....)

Something tells me if you were at SWA, B6 or... you name the place, the contract wouldn’t be of your liking either.

When you retire, 65 or earlier hopefully things will become perfect for you.

Before you "pull the trigger" hopefully you will be on the negotiating committee and get us a "great contract"... then I can become “you” on APC

I concur with a few of your complaints but... I think, the positive(s) out-weight the negative(s) at NK and the current contract; Just my humble opinion.

For a place that came fairly close to shutting down(at $140+ oil) and at the time, had less than 40 planes, I think the group/union did alright under the circumstances. (once again just my opinion)

I know... the “Law Man’s” contract under JC would have been much better
I love you guys, still fighting Herb's shadow.

You know the TA'd sections completed before March 2008 (and subsequently thrown away by the new MEC) were not Herbs work product. I had more to do with them than Herb and I had very little to do with them. Those sections were 99% the brainchild of our Negotiating Committee and it's Chairman. Period.

We could have arrived at a deal with Spirit in early 2007 if we had been willing to accept the same "cost neutral" contract we eventually signed. Herb's only substantial input was in demanding huge increases in pay and QOL/QOWork. Herb prefered to leave office with NO contract, to putting his name on another substandard (in his estimation) contract.

It is what it is, neither Spirit nor SPA ALPA caused the US economy to crash in 2008 and the subsequent situation/bargaining atmosphere was ruled by national economics. We ended up with a contract that is slightly worse (in my informed opinion) that what we could have taken in 2007, but we didn't know that the economy would crash and therefore continued to push for a boom cycle contract. The 2008 MEC got a good deal for a contraction cycle contract.

Can we just drop the snide "Herb's contract" remarks now?
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