Originally Posted by
fly2002
Absolutely disgusted by the lack of lower end scope recapture. Sure, let them fly some 50 seaters to feed, but those 170's need to be crewed by delta pilots. When the beach is eroding you add sand back to the bank. Alpa's just assuming there will never be a storm. Once those airbus's and 737's are washed away this career is DONE. It is obvious alpa wants status quo with scope and never intended to fight back. Way too much pressure from our "union with conflicted interest". Moak represents a LOT more regionals now than he does majors. His crowd to please is NOT us!!
Alpa is 38 airlines and only 2 are majors. When are these smart pilots finally going to do the math on this? We're gonna leave alpa. It's mathematical certainty. You think SWA, ups, usair, amr are going to come back? Right now CAPA represents more mainline pilots than alpa does!! If delta pilots go to capa, capa will represent more airline pilots total than alpa! You think united will sit there holding the bag at alpa once were gone? Sit back, look at the whole view. As acl used to say...read the tea leaves. It's quite simple really.
So back to scope...if we make no headway now what happens when a judge forces us to give away the 737's and airbus's in 10-15 years. What are we going to do then?
We leave alpa, united will follow. CAPA becomes huge, representing almost all mainline pilots. Alpa will represent regional carriers and there's nothing wrong with that. CAPA will be alpa v2.0 without all the bloat. Ok rant over...
Former alpa rep and alpa board of director member.
Ask away....I have tons of stories....
Couldn't have said it better. Two additional points:
1. This was NOT the opener given to management folks. This was the highly sanitized "conceptual" version. The example of us demanding sprinklers in our hotel rooms is the level of specifics that management got in all sections. If management only got a "conceptual" opener, that part should have read: "improve hotel rooms."
2. Understand that this Section 1 position is now the
High Water Mark. Negotiating in good faith will almost certainly require us to come off this crazy high water mark opening position of ours. Regarding Section1, it's very clear that it was written for us by ALPA national and the regional MEC's. They are unharmed and protected with language regarding preferential hiring.
Carl