Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Here's what I'm talking about bigbusdriver...This is the entire Page 16 that you refer to from the NMB's PowerPoint presentation to DALPA and management:
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Typical Contract Bargaining
...............Cycle
Calculate the time between amendable dates:
ADD:
+ Negotiations Prep after amendable date=0
+ Time in Direct Negotiations=18 months
+ Time in RLA Mediation= 29 months
+ Time in Ratification Process=1 month
+ Time Until Next Amendable Date=4 years
Contract Bargaining Cycle = 8 years
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Do you see the title of this slide? Notice that it says typical contract bargaining cycle? This entire briefing by the NMB was to give everyone involved a historical perspective of negotiations and the NMB's role if they are called in. If the NMB gets involved, their typical time in the process is 29 months.
Now, contrast that with the lie that sailingfun tried to perpetrate here on this forum by saying this:
The NMB said NO SUCH THING. Sailingfun simply lied about it. Why he would do that is anyone's guess. The fact that he is one of the paid "volunteer leakers" of the MEC bureaucracy should be troubling to everyone. Why does the MEC want to lower expectations so badly, they send out a leaker to state something so totally false?
Carl
I'm not very good at public math, but my abacus says 4 years. Pretty close to 5, maybe an exagerration, but certainly not a lie.
Now Siri, my new best friend says APA has been negotiating since September of 2006. And Continental since the summer of 2007. Almost 5 years! Amazing!
Pinnacle and ASA both had negotiations of over 5 years if memory serves (too lazy to Siri it) which leads to a fairly good prediction that if we are going for restoration and serious scope clean up, (the latter of which I am a single issue voter on) it could easily be 5 years plus and then a lot of walking in circles.
Anyway, you should know how the process works, I don't know why I'm having to type this.