Originally Posted by
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I'm not trying to start a flame war but this is an interesting issue. As I see it, an issue presents itself where furloughees are offered recall not only once but twice and refuse recall each time. Now throw in newhires into the mix and a strong argument could be presented before a judge that newhires now trump furloughees who were offered employment and refused. Of course this doesn't have anything to do with the right to recall but rather where someone would be placed on the integrated seniority list.
Wow, you are really clueless. Take a look at history, current ALPA policy, and what has already been taken as a snapshot to see the holes in your idea.
I also love the fact that you have completely discounted the furloughee's time flown at UAL. I was hired at the beginning of 2000, and have flown close to 8 years after removing the time served on the street during my two furloughs. I have not taken the "recall" to CAL (it is not one by the way, which is why I put it in quotes).
When exactly were you hired at CAL? Where would my 8 years time (not total time since hired, but time sitting in a UAL seat) get me at your current seniority list?
But again, you are totally clueless to completely disregard any of the above FACTS and think that some guy right off the street hired in 2012 should go in front of me after my two furloughs, 8 years served and 10,000 hours in this industry.
Nice.
Randy Webb
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