Johnso, don't take my remarks as snarky. I do ask questions, even if they are simple, because I am leaving room for people to correct me. I know I could be wrong, so I leave that door open. My exasperation about the state of the industry and attitudes also not directed at you. I did, however want to know what your proposed solutions are. I suppose my 'last straw' came as I stated above; a poster from mainline who bags on regionals coming out and saying the best career progression is to go to the shadiest, fastest upgrade regional. Then I could no longer take the hypocrasy. But again, my own thoughts and statements could wrong or idiotic, and I am definitely ok with being challenged *kindly*. I find it necessary to challenge one's own beliefs and also have their beliefs examined by others. Hopefully that will keep my more hare brained ideas at bay!