The descent wasn't on the approach. It was leading to it. The approach was high and fast. Worse comes to worse just go missed from that point. He knew how to do it today. I only have the 430 software to play with so today after I couldn't figure out how to load it correctly he walked me out to the plane and showed me. You're right I could have done different things. I was somewhat besides myself when I heard what they wanted me to do and couldn't figure out why so I starting going about it one way which was wrong. I never stated otherwise. If you take a very careful look at the topic of the thread it states "I was confused. could use input" by that I meant on what someone would do in that situation. Sitting down at a desk and hindsight being 20/20 everything suggest seems very logical and I have no idea why I just didn't ask. However the actual flying of the aircraft is no big deal. At no point were we out of control. I watch the T1's fly 20ft apart all day then do descents way crazier than that. Give them a call and let them know they are all knocking on death's door. It's only wrong if it's beyond your abilities. It was beyond mine which was the training reason for it. it might be beyond yours which is why the kneejerk freaked out reactions. However, it wasn't nearly beyond his. So just give that part a rest. Here is a screenshot of a GPS of exactly what was going on. I don't know why the one airport is there. But it shows me heading to DRT then I put in the fix here to show where they were wanting me to turn to. I could have been slightly closer or slightly further away. The border is right there and I was over open desert which is why it was confusing I received it in the first place and was somewhat shocked. Then why they held me up that high for that long was weird to me as well. I've been in and out many times and never received that before. However the other guy said he'd done it a few times. Here's the pic. Doesn't it seem like a waste? I guess I still don't get why they gave it to me.