If you need a job, apply. You'll most likely get called as the company seems to have a hard time attracting people. It's a great pilot group for the most part, and you will be welcomed with arms wide open on the line.

As to honest tellings. Everything you've read has been honest, and true. No one here is trying to sabotage the company, we simply want to be treated fairly. I don't think we're shooting for the sky, but current pay and rules are a joke. As many have said, the contract is not followed by the company, nothing is guaranteed, there are no pay protections, your body will be pushed to the limits as scheduling does not take sleeping patterns or anything for that matter into consideration, you will spend a lot of time sitting at airports between flights not getting paid (this may not sound bad if you're new to 121 ops, but it gets old quickly and wears you down), you will get called on your days off at random hours (no time is off limits even though contract says otherwise), bases close all the time, pilots get displaced out of seniority, we just lost significant flight benefits, etc.

Also, if it comes to a strike you will be put in an awkward position. You're on probation, so you will be threatened with your job once the rest of us walk. I won't go into the whole scab issue. Honestly, I don't think it will come to one. The company will drag it out for as long as they can, may not be much longer if they actually increase pay in a few weeks, but they won't want planes sitting idly, so something will be hashed out before that happens.

Go to that website that's out about what it's like here. Inform yourself, and if it's that bad that you do need the job, then by all means apply and come join the circus. Know you will be stuck here for at least two years since they seem to be enforcing that training contract. Everyone, and their mother, has their resumes out. Let me put it this way, a top 5% guy in company, who's top 5 in base, lives in base, has great QOL, is looking to leave. If that doesn't paint a good picture I don't know what does.

Hope this helps a little.


BOLO,

C'mon man. Nobody here is trying to discourage people from applying or working here. We are fighting a loosing battle for as long as there are new pilots willing to fly for peanuts. The dream is still being sold, but the dream is far from the truth. You know this. It's a loosing battle for you, me, and every pilot, major or regional, for as long as there is a major outsourcing flying, and a race to the bottom as to which regional will get the contract.

Pilots entering the industry in general need to start getting informed about the state of the industry, about the fact that the dream more often ends at the regional level these days. 50% of domestic flying, and climbing. You're not exempt, no one is. How about we fight the good fight together, and put the BS aside when it's about all of us. There is a common cause here. I think you can see that, even though our contract negotiations don't necessarily impact you directly.

Peace...