Originally Posted by
Columbia
What is the definition of appropriately? Didnt pilots agree to the outsourcing? When Southwest pilots were paid well less than others or years, most of them didn't feel under appreciated. It's strictly business-no need to feel loved or unloved based on pay. Heck, many at ups don't feel appreciated even at 150k 2nd year pay.
"Appropriate" is something significantly more than 40% less than what we were making in 2004 prior to the pay cuts.
It was always conventional wisdom that the SWA pilots made a lot less than we did. In fact, even today, when you just look at their pay rates compared to ours it doesn't appear they make THAT much more than we do. Yet their average Captain makes over $230K/year and their average F/O makes over $140K/year. And they don't appear to work any more days (maybe even fewer days) than we do. It's the combination of their pay rates and work rules that get this result.
I'm thinking they never did make THAT much less than we did. We just didn't understand (or pay attention to) how they are paid. I certainly know they never took a 42% pay cut and then never made any significant progress toward restoring that buying power (like we did/have).
What management has allowed to transpire with regard to our pay and outsourcing our jobs over the past decade shows a clear lack of respect for us. I really don't see how one can interpret that any other way.