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Old 03-29-2012 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Define this.

And then you'd be suck next to that sap on those long trips.

Sorry Sky. Minimums are in place for many reasons.
Not just to give you something more to rant about why you never got hired by Alaska.


$72,000 and you would be considered POOR in your state???
You live in Washington right?
That salary would be higher than ANY median income by county in your entire state. Can you provide a reference that shows that you would be considered below the poverty line at $72,000?
Here is mine:
Median Household Income, Washington State | OFM
http://www.ofm.wa.gov/economy/hhinc/medinc.pdf

This link from 2011 shows that a family of 4 would have to be making below $22,113 to be considered poverty level.
Washington state poverty rate remains unchanged - Seattle News - MyNorthwest.com-

Are you SURE that you aren't stretching the truth again a little on the dramatic side Sky? It is hard for me to imagine that one year and 2 kids makes that much difference between $22k and $72k.
If so - MOVE!

USMCFLYR

PS: Sharecroppers Good one Sky!
USMCFLYR,

I can understand that as a career gainfully employed military pilot you have not come in contact with unemployment insurance, food stamps or other forms of government help but I can assure you that regional airline pilots with families to support know a lot about it.

Just do the math: 72k minus taxes, 10% or more into the 401K, company insurance buy in to get your family included, then airport car, crash pad, mortgage, food and clothing for 8, gas, insurance ... ect. Doable but miserable. Where I live now a small 3 bedroom starter house rents for $1350/mo. It is much more in the city. It all adds up fast and lets not forget the biggest expense of all; the opportunity cost of what it took to get there in college, flight training and experience building. When you take it all into account everyone should be earning legacy airline wages starting in their 20's.

You and I have had this discussion before. Since you do not have a family to support you can't understand the costs involved. If you really are interested you could send me a PM and we could discuss it further, but I am not going into it here.

The point is that the wages and benefits of flying for a regional are considerably less than what the guys at the majors get for doing essentially the same job. The results are self evident. Just look at the lifestyle difference. It isn't fair. Companies have learned that they can hold out the carrot of a job at the majors and gain an indentured work force of deluded dreamers. There just is not enough room for most at the better companies and the consequences of falling short are harsh.

In regards to the anonymous interview; pilots could meet and be assessed in person. Their score taken into consideration and included into their evaluation. However I do not think that anyone in back really cares about how socially smooth the pilot is in person. They only care that the best available is flying the plane. Besides I don't think those who do most of the hiring have to sit up front anyway. They just want that annoying captain to stop bugging them about hiring their kid. I am sure that we could figure out a hiring system that is fair, but no one whats that. They want a system that has built in reasons to say no when they want to.

Skyhigh

Last edited by SkyHigh; 03-29-2012 at 02:29 PM.
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