Padre,

On my phone, so I can't quote you. You make a very good post.

But, this is not a purely pay disagreement. It is negotiating the terms of what management wants (scope liberalization) against pay. In my case, I would prefer the current deal for five years (versus a scope sale) since it may force Delta to use Delta pilots to perform our work. Pay, for at least 80% of our list, is also determined by position, productivity and schedule.