Originally Posted by gloopy

I think whoever puts those updates out has been pulled aside and "educated" about the needs to manage pilot expectations. There is no way, barring a massive downturn or another scope sale, that we can get away with putting off hiring until 2015. That is just insane and they know it. The fact that they are pushing the limits of reality just to manage expectations is not only effecting their credibility but possibly tipping their hand to how "constructive" the negotiations are going to be.

Of course I'm sure if we agree to outsource another couple hundred large RJ's that will create mainline jobs LOL!