Originally Posted by
PerpetualFlyer
Seriously, give it a rest. What your proposing would absolutely murder what shred of hope is left for this industry. If it were allowed to happen every airline in the country would immediately file bankruptcy and furlough from the top of the seniority list because that's where they spend the most money. Get your head out of the sand and think about your fellow pilots for once and not just yourself. This "it's all about me" mentality that is starting to show up from several pinnacle pilots is making me think this place is quickly becoming the next GoJet.
Not quite. Because 9E Corp is in a unique position where, at one time, we had one seniority list for 3 separate groups, with 3 separate ID badges, and 3 separate uniforms and manuals. That's not really one airline, even though ALPA wants to tout one-list. In this particular case, it's still 3 airlines and one particular airline is disappearing altogether. I don't think the other 2 airlines (which is now one airline with the fenced operation) should have to take any hits for the cuts of Colgan. Mesaba's Saab cuts were able to be absorbed without anyone being furloughed. But if one Pinnacle or Mesaba pilot gets furloughed as a result of Colgan aircraft being parked, then this whole thing will be a real sham.
Out of Seniority will never happen. There is no precedent for it in the courts, no union will ever agree to it. ALAPA National would never allow it. I believe that there would be an illegal strike before you ever see an out of seniority furlough.
I agree that I can't think of a past precedent, but never say never. Your other comments about the union will never agree with it will not matter, because in BK management will file motion 1113e and the union's wants aren't really binding. Same with ALPA national, and there will be no illegal strike unless you're willing to be fined, fired, or jailed.