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Old 04-08-2012 | 09:58 AM
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Scoop
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Just for fun, let's assume he's wrong on all the peripheral stuff. He's just shown you a direct crew cost disadvantage (cost increase) of 66%, not including reserves and all the other stuff associated in a mainline versus DCI comparison.

But he's not wrong.

Take a look at the front page of this website and compare. DAL's DC is 14%. The first 5 years at DCI regionals have an average 401K percentage match of pilot contributions around 5% that's based on an average crew wage that's 66% less. Per Diem is 20% lower at the regionals. ($1.65-$1.70 compared to $2.00 at DAL). Work rules? Compass deadheads at 75% pay. Yes, they have higher hours in their reserve guarantee, but they also get fewer days off. Both those components lower DCI pilot costs compared to mainline rules. DCI regional hotel costs are about 20% less than Delta.

And all these are costs under our current contract...not the more expensive one we're negotiating.

Last time I checked PCL was in bankruptcy and looking for wage givebacks. CMR was negotiating a concessionary deal. American Eagle is in bankruptcy and getting 1113'd. Do you think the results of those situations is going to help or hurt your premise going forward?
Slow,

Using your above logic, AMR in BK, USAIR is paid less than us right now, UCAL pays less than us right now, we should be getting ready for a paycut in section 6.

How about we agree not to use bottom feeding contracts to try to justify/not justify what we strive for at Delta?

Does pattern bargaining only go down?

Scoop