Sorry, I must have misunderstood you, I thought you were saying Express was the same as brining new airplanes on line, of which I am in full favor. Express was about putting existing Mainline airframes into a LCC type operation, at a significant pay cut, which is a whole 'nutha can of worms.

But in the end, if we keep on voting YES to pay cuts and out sourcing our flying...well, all of Airline Management would be stupid not to keep throwing it at us, right? That's their JOB; get More, for Less.

ALPA's Job is to tell them NO! BUT...ALPA can't do it without the full support of the pilot group. It still takes 51% of the Pilot Group to vote NO and make it stick. The Delta Pilots have NEVER voted NO to any T/A, so we got that going for us...