This discussion has gone much better then I anticipated. I've tried having similar discussions with my fellow controllers and it's like I punked a jock in a locker room in front of his crew. They want no part of it, fine with using bad techniques because it's worked before.
I fear if we, controllers and pilots, don't start turning around complacency in the workplace one of these days we'll have a perfect storm and the outcome is going to be disastrous.