At the time I was offered a job I was going to start at CAL in two weeks and DAL said it would be a year to a year and a half to get a classdate there. Also, my wife wanted to work where I did and DAL had nepotism so it was a no go there too. CAL hired her in a heartbeat so we both were able to be employed at the same company. So question all you want, but without all the information your post is pretty braindead and closedminded. I knew other pilots that did the same as I. As far as CAL being a top tier? UAL has been a total bust for the last 15-20 years and everyone except a few on here knows that. About the only award you've excelled at getting is for being at the top of the WORST list year after year. Too bad we're being dragged down to that level with you now. One of the recent L-UAL guys I just flew with told me he thinks most of the UAL employees are still stuck in the heydays of the 80's............it's a much different world now and he was happy to have a job flying nice CLEAN, NEW, airplanes and flying with much younger crews. Anyways, I'll let you guys stay in your little fantasy world about how great things are over there. Everyone else sees it quite differently.......................