Again you missed the point of my post: Once a TA has been reached, it is too late!

A TA is just that: a Tentative AGREEMENT. It means our Union leadership has agreed with the Company. Like it or not, our hand will have been played at that point. The MEC may subsequently vote it down or the pilots may vote it down...not bending to the strong arming tactics of the Administration...but regardless, they will not be able to achieve significant, tangible improvements beyond that original TA. Because at that point, there would be no real mechanism for achieving significant improvements or changes beyond a job action...which will not happen under Moak.

With all due respect ACL, what the Reps say to you now is not necessarily what they will do later, though it may make us all feel better in the short run. In past negotiations, many a radical-no-voter has been turned under pressure. But go on living the dream for now...