Bar, I get what your saying but northwest is our mainline example that it didn't happen to them and shouldn't happen to us. Seems like fear mongering. Hopefully that negative attitude is why he is the former mec chair. Seems like he was speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Rj's threaten mainline flying if we outsource to the regionals and they threaten mainline flying if we insource them. I say bullspit!! We know outsourcing killed our domestic mainline flying and we also know dc9's are good for us.